Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

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Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Yes
28
20%
No
99
69%
Only if reversible
16
11%
 
Total votes: 143

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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby undergrain1 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:08 am

if it doesn't hurt you or someone else... especialy if it doesn't hurt someone else, and if you still take care of your other responsibilitys, and keep your life in proportion... i'd say it isn't enough of a fetish to be a fetish requiring a 'cure'.

others have pointed out how it gets them out into nature, and maybe see the value of preserving natural terrain and not letting everything get paved on, built on and farmed. gets people out on walks instead of videogaming or keyboarding at a computer, and people have said moving in and getting out of mud is good airobic exercise.

i only wish i could do it but my responsibilitys keep me from it and i wish i had known years ago that mud was the thing to look for cause i passed up a lot of chances to explore mud that might be deep enough for deep sinking - i was looking for quicksand which i have learned here and other sites is too resistant to sinking and tends to lock up around your body when the water goes away.

so, no i wouldn't take a cure but only cause i have an unmet interest but not an obsession.

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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby Duncan Edwards » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:15 am

After much thought I finally voted "No".

I'm a pure "looker", not a "doer" so my situation might be different from most who have posted thus far. I've spent countless hours and dollars over nearly eighteen years actively pursuing a fetish interest in secret. The mental gymnastics required to pull this off would confound many but it seems to work for me because the fetish dovetails so perfectly with many other interests I've got. I know of only one other person who is put together much like me but doesn't need to keep things as quiet and it is definitely a major part of his life as well.

If I had taken a "cure" for this fetish after discovering that's what I had in Feb. '95 I would have been spared a lot to be sure. I also would have missed out on things that existed only in my dreams prior to that. Friends, great adventures, beautiful ladies, some travel, a chance to grow in directions that seemed impossible. My life would have been secure but lacking in color. I found the right crowd. Who knows what I might have done to find that color otherwise?

I am what I am and that's for a reason. I've decided that such a "cure" for me would be no different than hacking off a body part.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby Nessie » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:03 am

dlodoski wrote:I obviously have a heavy bias.


And isn't it just amazing how your viewpoint changes when you've turned it around from being a secret fetish...and done something constructive with it?

I consider quicksand video to be very important, and not just because producers earn money. I'm mostly a "doer" but in the off-season, I occasionally do revert to "looker" status and obviously I had to start that way.

I remember how it was. There was a TV in the house but no quicksand. And it never once entered my mind that I should go find some. And Tarzan came on...and I'm thinking: "I don't even really like Tarzan...but that's a quicksand scene! Oh, no, it's over...and it'll probably be a year before they re-run this!"

And I was wondering how terrible I was inside for wanting to see somebody submerge. Did anyone else feel this way? Was I feeding off death? Did this mean that I had the makings of a serial killer inside me?

While it's less efficient at feeding your personal sinking urges (you need Google Maps and a pair of hiking shoes for that), I think the community here has played an indispensable role in eliminating a huge amount of "watcher guilt". When you need to feed your inner quicksand beast, you can just come here...and maybe treat yourself to a clip. Quicksand clips are like eating a whole plate of "cage-free" eggs.

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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby James diGriz » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:27 am

I took a long time to think about this as well. To be accurate, 0.68 seconds.

Who we are is defined by what we like, what we do, and what we surround ourselves with. To remove something that is at the core of your being, that is tantamount to removing a good chunk of your life.

Would you be different? Yeah. Would you be the same? i don't know, and honestly, I can't see me like that. I may actually be a more pleasant guy to hang around with, but I would probably be in Illinois, and not Florida. It was someone from this community that gave me the gumption to move to Florida, and while he is no longer among us, I am glad to have met this man and followed his advice.

Do I have regrets based on what i like? A few, but I have accepted them. I can only give a sly smile that no one else would understand when I go into work, or walk down the street. sure some may think it is creepy, but I call it a slice of heaven in the midst of hell.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby dlodoski » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:37 am

I do want to expand on a comment I made earlier about 'churches'. Because taken by itself, it was probably misleading.

When I referred to churches making a business out of considering fetishes an illness or disease, it was probably my Lutheran upbringing and indulgence bashing talking. It's no secret that religions use guilt/forgiveness/salvation as tools to further their existence and expansion. It's one of the problems with organized religion.

But along with other distinctions, I think it's important to separate faith and religion. Whatever religion we are raised in may or may not work out for us regarding our eventual faith lives. So, I really don't think it's fair or useful to paint 'religion' in broad strokes.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby QuicksandMania » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:09 pm

Wow, these are all great responses. Thanks for participating. I used the term "cure" because I am sure that is how it would be "sold" if it existed. I am reminded of an episode of "Monk" where the protagonist took a "cure" for his obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and became "normal." Unfortunately, it was his OCD that made him such an excellent detective in the first place. He lost his edge and neglected his duties. He discontinued treatment and returned to his old "abnormal" self to solve the case.

So I think it goes with our interest. It would be difficult to remove the part without damaging the whole. Like Dave Lodoski, I was also raised Lutheran so I can relate to the buzz killing aspect of that denomination. Spirituality is far more complex than the established ministers would have us believe.

I would at least consider taking a reversible pill just to experience life without the fetish and learn what would rise to take its place. I am sure "Doctor Who" would rise a notch. I have seen how obsessed some fans are with that show and they make us look downright sedate. Well, you know, some of those female companions are hot, after all.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby quickbeard » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:22 pm

I wonder if I am seeing a trend here, with the older members. About 20 years ago, my answer would have been yes. I thought that I was the only person who thought this way, and like Kaol put it, I wondered if I had a tumor or something physically wrong with me. I remember thinking How could something as mundane as wet dirt effect me, and then I would hear the word quicksand, and shivers should run up my spine. I even tried stopping, simply because it was so damned weird. Finding that I was not alone was the first step. It freed me to examine myself without fear that I was crazy. I realized that this was something that had been there almost as long as I could remember, and I had been drawn to mud long before it had a sexual component. In the early days of the group's involvement on the net, we shared on the alt.sex newsgroups, and I realized that there were many other fetishes out there; and I could be thankful for the one that I have. In my case, I am blessed enough to have someone in my life who accepts that part of me. It boils done to one of the basic precepts of medicine- first, do no harm. If it isn't hurting you or anyone else, wallow in it.... so to speak.:-D

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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby PM2K » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:01 pm

Me? No... although for years, like many others here, I thought I was an odd duck and alone in this interest. Discovering this community and how wide and diverse it is made me accept who I am and how normal I am. Frankly, I just don't worry about it anymore. :)

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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby jack c » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:16 pm

Dave,

I was raised Catholic, and have converted to the Lutheran church; all my children raised Lutheran. I understand the underlying anti-sex bias of traditional Christian denominations, but I don't feel a great sense of conflict, and I have been a customer of yours numerous times. I almost think it is a gift to have something so un-advert to spark this interest. I have an unviolent view of the subject, and it hurts no one else. So I am comfortable in my own skin. I'll pass on the cure pill.

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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?

Postby dlodoski » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:08 pm

jack c wrote:Dave, I was raised Catholic, and have converted to the Lutheran church; all my children raised Lutheran. I understand the underlying anti-sex bias of traditional Christian denominations, but I don't feel a great sense of conflict, and I have been a customer of yours numerous times. I almost think it is a gift to have something so un-advert to spark this interest. I have an unviolent view of the subject, and it hurts no one else. So I am comfortable in my own skin. I'll pass on the cure pill....

That's interesting. After being raised Lutheran, I have been attending Catholic churches for the last 24 years. It's not that weird, really. My wife is Catholic and the Lutheran church in the town that we met in was in serious decline (the Korean Lutheran community there took it over soon afterwards). The Hispanic and Filipino communities made the nearest Catholic church quite vibrant. Lutherans were the original splitters from the Catholic church. So, the liturgy (order of service/mass) is nearly identical - right down to the creeds.

What I meant by indulgences earlier in the thread was the historical context where the Catholic church was literally selling forgiveness (hence, indulgences). It was the main thing that Martin Luther couldn't stand. It must have stuck with me, because to this day, I am sensitive to, and cynical about, organized religion feeding off of guilt. Jesus repeatedly talked about leaving judging up to his Father. It's too bad he didn't expand on sexual deviance the way he did about getting along and helping the needy. It would have helped gays and fetishists both.

In any case, I will say that church attendance may not be an obvious fit for our lifestyle. But it does serve a meditation function among other things. My attendance is way up since moving to the country. My first impression of the parish here was akin to a funeral parlor (it was the cheesy organ). But now that we have made friends there, it's the best church I have ever belonged to.

More to the topic, if anyone in convinced that faith and fetish lives are incompatible, consider focusing on the aspects of your religion that are helpful to you personally. If churches/preachers/religions pick and choose from the Bible, why shouldn't we?
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