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Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:56 pm
by PM2K
Thought there might be a few of us out there who might like this DiD scene... very brief at the end of this credits sequence. Not perfect, but the victim is cute and it is a scene I'd love to see played out a lot more often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPaLwm0EaENow, this may be the place to ask what do you think of "sloppy" burials like this? I see it as a variation of the quicksand thing we all have. Naturally, and before this space gets hammered with safety warnings, etc... I know there's no way to use real cement... as discussed elsewhere earlier, that is like taking a bath in acid... What I'm aiming for is a discussion on this as a DiD fantasy here.

Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:39 pm
by nachtjaeger
I find this one- disturbing. My thing is the rescue of the DiD, so this type of grim ending was a bit intense.
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:51 pm
by MadMax359
nachtjaeger wrote:I find this one- disturbing. My thing is the rescue of the DiD, so this type of grim ending was a bit intense.
that's exactly how i feel
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:27 pm
by rickyj
Well, Big Boy Caprice also did the same thing to Lips whatver-his-name-was in the 1990 movie Dick Tracy. He referred to it as "taking a bath.", cuz they dumped the whole box down into some water after they were done.
Yes kids DO NOT try this at home....in case you are unaware, cement causes delayed-action chemical burns. Some unfortunate folk have found that out the hard way (pun intended). WHere is that pic of the guy with burned up legs that had to be chopped off that someone put up a while back? That was nuts.
People have def. been "buried" like this..once in a while you hear about human remains being dug up by construction workers. I think those victims were done in THEN put there, not done in like in that clip. Things like that would probably be in the realm of some mobsters back in the day...they'd do it for fun I guess, but iyou gotta think it would be a lot less work to just shoot 'em and dig a hole and toss them in, than to go through all that trouble of rounding up a cement truck (in that clip the guy was flagging it in like a 747 on a taxi runway), keep the victim from yelling and crap, you;d probably have to wait till it got hard to make sure the person didnt get out, and then finding somewhere to dump it and hope no one sees you do all that.
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:53 pm
by dlodoski
Hmm, I think PM2K would already consider these responses 'Too Much Reality for a Saturday Night' (yes, I'm a 'As Good as it Gets' fan).
I didn't have a bad reaction to this - but I did react sadly to the clip of the man and woman committing suicide by letting themselves get buried in concrete. Maybe it's a mood thing - or the whole early 90's cheap movie effect kept me off the hook.
Anyways, this particular clip crossed into a lot of areas, including gunging. I think that seeing a sloppy burial done in a plexiglass or acrylic tank/box would be cool - especially if the substance was really thick and clear (possibly dyed) methyl-cellulose.
For me as a producer though, I have a lot of traditional 'pit' things I'd like to try before getting into burial themes. Pretty much the same way I feel about alternative substances. I can see Michael taking a whack at this though....
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:05 am
by PM2K
Just thought I'd add something else here... while this particular scene is grim, this sort of scene doesn't have to be.

Again, like anything in DiD, there's no rule saying the damsel can't get rescued at the last minute.
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:34 pm
by MadMax359
PM2K wrote:Just thought I'd add something else here... while this particular scene is grim, this sort of scene doesn't have to be.

Again, like anything in DiD, there's no rule saying the damsel can't get rescued at the last minute.
that's why i write my Tales of Peril scenes with ambiguous endings... those whose minds tend to rescue can assume help is on the way, those who prefer grim endings can imagine that
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:52 pm
by water_bug_62208
Personally, anytime the Damsel In Distress is bound and gagged, it, for me, takes the "fun" away from the scene... i.e., the gal has no chance at all to escape.
Now, same scene with the gal not bound and gagged, with her limbs free to attempt an escape and able to call for help, yet still gets buried in an ever-so-slowly rising ooze (i.e., quicksand or deep mud in reverse), that kind of scene I can appreciate.
An exception to at least the "bound concept" would be one where the Damsel In Distress gets ensnared by vines, dragged (preferrably standing) to a deep, muddy area, and slowly pulled into the ooze as she struggles to free her arms, legs, and waist from the entangling vines, and could still call for help... that kind of scene is fine with me.
Hope that at least addresses what you'er asking. PM2K.
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:26 pm
by wysvp
dlodoski wrote:...
For me as a producer though, I have a lot of traditional 'pit' things I'd like to try before getting into burial themes. Pretty much the same way I feel about alternative substances. I can see Michael taking a whack at this though....
I have, indeed, been looking into doing a scene like this. That was one reason I created the "box" you see in the "Sand Box" videos - my original goal was to have a thick liquid poured into the box, instead of the sand. Actually, that still is my goal - the key is to find a substance that is safe for the models/actresses, is cheap to produce, and has the desired look of "cement" - so far, no luck, but still working on some possibilities. Apple sauce with non-toxic gray paint has been my best "test" substance so far, but it is rather expensive to produce.
Mike
Re: Cement burial scenes...
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:49 am
by Boggy Man
wysvp wrote:Actually, that still is my goal - the key is to find a substance that is safe for the models/actresses, is cheap to produce, and has the desired look of "cement" - so far, no luck, but still working on some possibilities.Mike
What about mixing clay with just enough coarse sand and perhaps also reasonably fine gravel to give it a cement-like texture?