Quicksand Fans

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and just watched my first Quicksand video produced by MPV titled "Quicksand Arousal". Overall the DVD had several very exciting scenes and I am already considering purchasing a new one (once I can afford it). However before this happens I want to ask the producers and fans of this site for recommendations, because finding videos of girls actually enjoying the process of sinking and submerging seems very rare.

Here is a list of items I'd like to see in a video:

1. Actresses enjoying the process of slowly sinking and fully submerging ***MOST IMPORTANT***

2. More realism in the sinking and submerging

3. More location variety (in Quicksand Arousal nearly every scene was at the same location)

4. Quicksand that matches it's surrounding environment as well as the simulated consistency of quicksand

5. If possible videos with scenes in higher resolution and done within the past decade or sooner

There is a scene I found on youtube called "sabbie mobili 1" which is a very good example of what I'm hoping to see, except in this scene the girl is freaking out...BUT AGAIN I want to watch a girl who ENJOYS the sinking and submerging process.



Lastly, until I can afford to buy another video, are there any freely available amateur made videos out the web or even this site? I ask because I haven't come across much, what I have seen is mostly animations and people playing in mud. So I just thought I'd ask.

I appreciate any help with this.

Chris

As far as MPV goes, using the search function at Club MPV (available to members) and using 'erotic+submersion' pretty much assures you of finding the type of scene you want. Taking note of the aspect ratio of the thumbnail (16x9 is hi def) will give you an idea of how new they are.

As far as locations go, MPV is the undisputed king of variety. The DVD you purchased was limited to out first two shooting seasons.

Dave

Your questions suggest you have seen very, VERY few of the videos produced by the producers that support this forum. If you visit the studio 588 website you can find a searchable list of the scenes released to date. They are nearly ALL in HD and definitely all recently made. The majority feature full submersion.

Fred588 wrote:Your questions suggest you have seen very, VERY few of the videos produced by the producers that support this forum. If you visit the studio 588 website you can find a searchable list of the scenes released to date. They are nearly ALL in HD and definitely all recently made. The majority feature full submersion.

Hi there Fred, I just want to point out that in my original message I did state that the video I watched was in indeed my very first time seeing this type of material. I also said that this is my first time on this site, so there is no need to assume anything. I very clearly defined this for you.

As for my comment about rare videos, that is my perception as the site navigation here is...more awkward than what I am familiar with.

So this is why I came to the forum, as I was hoping I might receive some recommendations or even some links to those recommendations. At the very since you mentioned the 588 website, I would have thought you'd at least provide a link to the 588 website where these videos are.

Unless I'm mistaken I did find that site, but it only showed two videos for sale and there was only one page...but I might be thinking about a different site.

dlodoski wrote:As far as MPV goes, using the search function at Club MPV (available to members) and using 'erotic+submersion' pretty much assures you of finding the type of scene you want. Taking note of the aspect ratio of the thumbnail (16x9 is hi def) will give you an idea of how new they are.

As far as locations go, MPV is the undisputed king of variety. The DVD you purchased was limited to out first two shooting seasons.

Dave

Thank you for the advice Dave, however as I said in my original message I do not currently have funds for a new DVD. Which would also mean I do not have funds to become a member. So unfortunately your advice ends up being rather mute.

Guys, I'm not trying to cause any offensive, but typically if you're going to provide recommendations and assistance to someone who is new to your websites and forum. Typically you provide links so that the new person does not get lost. As for the "search function available to members", I'm assuming that is a paid membership (you did not say). If it is a paid membership, then is there a way to find the videos as potential customer?

Anyway, once again I apologize if I came across as a little harsh, but just consider this from a new person's perspective. One who is very new to this genre of media and doesn't know what's out there other then what little he has come across.

Fred588 wrote:Your questions suggest you have seen very, VERY few of the videos produced by the producers that support this forum. If you visit the studio 588 website you can find a searchable list of the scenes released to date. They are nearly ALL in HD and definitely all recently made. The majority feature full submersion.

Hey again Fred, I just saw that the link to your studio 588 site is in your footer. My prior comment was in part because when I clicked on the "quote" button to respond your message the footer was not displayed. So that's why I didn't see your link.

Alright guys,

I've been attempting to navigate the studio588 and MPV site off and on for an hour or two today and yesterday. From a potential customers stand-point it feels as though you are intentionally driving off your would be customers. Sure, you have customers, but due to the ineffective navigation and site design on both websites, if those were improved to be more intuitive, customer-friendly, and straight-forward. I have no doubt that you could easily attract twice as many customers over time.

I mean, that is unless you are intentionally trying to keep your customer base at what ever it is right now? Let me ask a very straight forward question: on the http://www.clubmpv.com/updates/payperscene, is there any way to purchase a scene, without getting a monthly subscription? I mean, seriously there are dozens of erotica vod sites out there with material 10x more explicit (mature audience) content, yet membership there is "FREE" but they still verify you. Not to mention Youtube has more nudity for free and all those sites offer their "tracking" programming without charge. (this is based upon a Q/A section in you FAQ)

While you may think that I'm ranting about your companies, I'm not, I'm trying to help you understand that you are using an online business model similar to those I remember from five to ten years ago. But it is 2013, it's time to modernize your sites. If your companies are unable to do it individually, then why not combine efforts and create one single online presence. Then within that online presence show your individual store-fronts and categories.

Flash or Captivate are two software programs that come to mind that could help with your online stores, but there are others.

As for me, I'm calling it a night. Since I'm a new person on this site, you can take my freely given advice...or not...it's your website's. I just really like this new/old genre that I just found, but was disturbed when I tried to navigate it and even more annoyed when I saw there was monthly subscription fee simply to download individual scenes.

Chris

tw14 wrote:Alright guys,

I've been attempting to navigate the studio588 and MPV site off and on for an hour or two today and yesterday. From a potential customers stand-point it feels as though you are intentionally driving off your would be customers. Sure, you have customers, but due to the ineffective navigation and site design on both websites, if those were improved to be more intuitive, customer-friendly, and straight-forward. I have no doubt that you could easily attract twice as many customers over time.

I mean, that is unless you are intentionally trying to keep your customer base at what ever it is right now? Let me ask a very straight forward question: on the http://www.clubmpv.com/updates/payperscene, is there any way to purchase a scene, without getting a monthly subscription? I mean, seriously there are dozens of erotica vod sites out there with material 10x more explicit (mature audience) content, yet membership there is "FREE" but they still verify you. Not to mention Youtube has more nudity for free and all those sites offer their "tracking" programming without charge. (this is based upon a Q/A section in you FAQ)

While you may think that I'm ranting about your companies, I'm not, I'm trying to help you understand that you are using an online business model similar to those I remember from five to ten years ago. But it is 2013, it's time to modernize your sites. If your companies are unable to do it individually, then why not combine efforts and create one single online presence. Then within that online presence show your individual store-fronts and categories.

Flash or Captivate are two software programs that come to mind that could help with your online stores, but there are others.

As for me, I'm calling it a night. Since I'm a new person on this site, you can take my freely given advice...or not...it's your website's. I just really like this new/old genre that I just found, but was disturbed when I tried to navigate it and even more annoyed when I saw there was monthly subscription fee simply to download individual scenes.

Chris

Since our producers are too courteous to do this I'll spare them the effort and ask if you are yet again the same obsessive freebie seeking troll who has gone over this question countless times before? If not I'll proceed to point out that literally hundreds of others, including myself, manage to navigate these sites without major brain strain. If that is too much then just a bit of research will reveal that these scenes are available as downloadable DVD's, individual scenes from Clips4sale, the producers respective websites, hard copy DVD's, and something else I'm forgetting. Could it be better from any of them? Sure. Is it that difficult? No. If you want to offer "free advice" I'd suggest you just email the respective producers. What would be better still if you could provide a way to pay for all the changes you suggest I'm sure they would listen.

In reference to the comment from tw....

"Unless I'm mistaken I did find that site, but it only showed two videos for sale and there was only one page...but I might be thinking about a different site."

its pretty obvious you were looking at another site. At the site you apparently thought you were seeing you could have easily found a sortable, searchable, numerical list of roughly 561 scenes.

I am not going to try to address all the complaints raised in this post as I think that would serve no purpose. I will, however, point out one thing that I think may be more generally useful. The following quite from the original will suffice:

tw14 wrote:Alright guys,

Flash or Captivate are two software programs that come to mind that could help with your online stores, but there are others.

Chris

I think this makes a good illustration of the difference, in viewpoint, between younger, technically oriented, but less experienced persons and older, practically oriented, and experienced ones. And I will admit I am making an assumption that the original poster fits in the former category. I will assert that I do fit in the latter.

I am aware of Flash as a vehicle for delivering video-type materials or animations to websites. Captivate I am not familiar with. In my experience, persons in the younger, technically-oriented category immediately recognize what something like Flash CAN do. I did this sort of thing myself back in the early 80s when I was part of that category. Persons in my current category still recognize what a new tool can do, perhaps a bit more slowly, but we (I, anyway) want to then ask what does that capability REALLY contribute. I want to ask questions such as "Does a flashy website actually contribute to the purpose of the website or is it just flashy?" or "Does this new tool make things better or does it just make them different?"

My professional career, which is now approaching its end (read: retirement soon) has been in the field of education. I have personally witnessed a long series of innovations, technological and others. But, the truth is few of those have made any difference at all. I frequently witness incredible claims about how some technological thing is going to change everything and those who do not immediately adopt the new technology are going to be left behind. Every single one of those claims has failed to pan out. Incidentally, while it was before my time (Fred is not THAT old) I remember reading about a gleeful claim by a state governor about how a new technology was going to mean higher education would be practically free to everyone, there would be no more need for brick and mortar university buildings, and so on. Sound like a prediction about on line education? Nope, it was in 1928 and the governor was talking about educational RADIO.

I have probably said enough on this, but I will add one thing. The original poster might be right, but as the owner of a business I would be far more impressed with an actual, concrete proposal than with simple criticism.

Speaking for myself I can say that I've never had a problem with Club MPV or Studio 588 . . .navigating their websites is not rocket science ! Regarding paying for scenes I appreciate that filming, etc. must cost quite a bit, so the prices are very reasonable, and I think it's a bit much to expect scenes, etc. for free. If tw14 doesn't like these sites he can always look elsewhere ( I'm being polite now ) for his entertainment. Right, that's my rant over for now !