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CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:13 pm
by bangskull22
It's no question that nowadays, quicksand in the media is pretty much scarce. And back when they did show it in movies and TV shows, most of the time it was just made out of a pool of water topped with sand and/or cork, which wouldn't be THAT bad if the actresses didn't plunge right in causing them to be up to their shoulders right from the start. And of course there are the trident true excuses for simply not doing it, whether they say it's too cliche, or that the actresses complained about getting dirty, or whatever. I know beggars can't be choosers but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

But what if you could make a quicksand scene for a movie... just by computer-generating it?


I'd say with the advances in technology today, and after seeing what's possible to recreate in movies such as Avatar and 2012, I'd say making quicksand on the computer should be easy for them. And it could solve a lot of problems like those stated above. They can make it look real, generate a nice and slow sink with plenty of struggle motion, and the actress wouldn't have to get dirty. And as far as the mud clinging to the body, well... the skin tight costume in the upcoming Green Lantern movie is supposedly all CGI as well so a mud coating shouldn't be a problem either. And for the issue with it being cliche, there's nothing stopping their technology from spicing things up a bit. They could add tentacles, or perhaps even LIVING quicksand. The skies the limit.

I know that this can never replace actual quicksand, but at least this way Hollywood can give us something. They have the technology and it's about time they used it. :D

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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:33 am
by schlamm
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Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:42 am
by Boggy Man
CGI quicksand has been done. For example, the movie "Jumanji" had the wooden floor turn into quicksand: 8-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXAr12pRdio#t=1m0s

Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:25 am
by Qsvgitguy
Hi,

I've been doing CGI animations including Quicksand scenes for over 10 years now. Here is a collections of my QS movies.

QS Sunset
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WWHZFL1I

QS Collective: A collection of early stuff. Not very good.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OLGVCXE8

Nurse Krystal
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N93R63F8

Creeping Crud Blob vore or what I like to call Proactive QS!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TF8T8TM2

I'm also working on another movie that will combine QS and vore. It's in the early stages but I'll keep everybody posted.

Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:22 am
by A20
Yeah, Jumanji had CGI quicksand and I think one Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode.

Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:13 pm
by Duncan Edwards
I doubt that it's going to happen anytime soon but I'm waiting for the day when CGI on a desktop pc is so good that we can fake both the bog and the actress so well that nobody will know unless we tell them its fake. 8-)

Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:48 pm
by PM2K
Duncan Edwards wrote:I doubt that it's going to happen anytime soon but I'm waiting for the day when CGI on a desktop pc is so good that we can fake both the bog and the actress so well that nobody will know unless we tell them its fake. 8-)



You know.. in a way, I'll regret that day... To me, as wonderful as CGI can be, it isn't a substitute for reality. :D

Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:42 pm
by Duncan Edwards
PM2K wrote:
Duncan Edwards wrote:I doubt that it's going to happen anytime soon but I'm waiting for the day when CGI on a desktop pc is so good that we can fake both the bog and the actress so well that nobody will know unless we tell them its fake. 8-)



You know.. in a way, I'll regret that day... To me, as wonderful as CGI can be, it isn't a substitute for reality. :D


I feel much the same way but I'm hoping even I won't know the difference. Is a fake reality at 100% fidelity still fake when you aren't part of it anyway? I mean, we've come close once or twice but we've never actually drowned a girl in quicksand. 8-)

Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:52 pm
by water_bug_62208
Duncan Edwards wrote:
PM2K wrote:
Duncan Edwards wrote:I doubt that it's going to happen anytime soon but I'm waiting for the day when CGI on a desktop pc is so good that we can fake both the bog and the actress so well that nobody will know unless we tell them its fake. 8-)



You know.. in a way, I'll regret that day... To me, as wonderful as CGI can be, it isn't a substitute for reality. :D


I feel much the same way but I'm hoping even I won't know the difference. Is a fake reality at 100% fidelity still fake when you are part of it anyway? I mean, we've come close once or twice but we've never actually drowned a girl in quicksand. 8-)

I concur with PM2K... 1) It isn't a substitute for reality, 2) it's going to be a sad day when we accept something fake in lieu of the real deal, and 3) rather scary when you consider if such technology were taken beyond movies and animation... it would suck big time if the gal you were going out with and eventually married turned out to be a CGI fake. That's the stuff science fiction is made of, and what was science fiction yesterday exists as reality today.

Re: CGI Quicksand: A Possibility?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:06 pm
by Duncan Edwards
Hadn't really thought about this much before now.

I guess the kicker to our "reality" is that there is at least some danger of some kind out there when it's "real". There's been at least half-dozen times when our "reality" was real enough to cause some alarm or actual trouble while creating it. That will never be there with CGI.

But again, for the viewers anyway, if the producers don't tell you then how will you know? What difference would that version of
"reality" make? Would you want the creators to tell you it wasn't "real" fake or would you want to know it was CGI fake? 8-)