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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
This is in reply to Parzival's point about "normal." The point is well taken. In a statistical sense the term "normal" refers to what is average or typical of some characteristic of something. For example, the "normal" height of an adult male is the mathematical average of all adult males. An average, by itself, conveys very little information unless accompanied by another measure that expresses the average variation around the average. That is commonly a statistic called the "standard deviation." I can say I am not normal in height because my height is nearly three standard deviations less than the average for adult males. In other words, I am quite short. We can say, also, that NO ONE is completely normal because we have multiple and independent characteristics and the probability of being at the average for ALL of them is vanishingly small. I am, for example, much below average in height but about the same amount above average in what I guess could be labeled ":academic ability." [I advanced to a doctorate.] And yes I know lots of people with similar credentials who struggle with tying their shoes., but that is a different point.
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In my case the fascination with sinking (and physical arousal caused by it) was rather subconscious for many years, but I clearly remeber moments when I was extremely excited in such situations, even watching them in movies. I also remeber some dreams I had about it which were very surprising to me. After some experiments with psychedelics that I have done recently, I became able to look at this "feature of my brain" consciously and finally found sites like MPV and this forum. Now I enjoy it freely. But this is just one of many things that psychedelics helped me to make clear.
I think it all started a few years ago when I read this book - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tell-Tale_Brain
My hypothesis is, that such fetish connections are present in every human brain, but in most cases they are somehow overriden or blocked by common sexuality and social conditioning. So I see it as "unlocked special (old) feature" of brain, rather than something unnatural.
So LSD was "fetish cure" for me in the sense of pulling it from subconsciousness.
In my case the fascination with sinking (and physical arousal caused by it) was rather subconscious for many years, but I clearly remeber moments when I was extremely excited in such situations, even watching them in movies. I also remeber some dreams I had about it which were very surprising to me. After some experiments with psychedelics that I have done recently, I became able to look at this "feature of my brain" consciously and finally found sites like MPV and this forum. Now I enjoy it freely. But this is just one of many things that psychedelics helped me to make clear.
I think it all started a few years ago when I read this book - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tell-Tale_Brain
My hypothesis is, that such fetish connections are present in every human brain, but in most cases they are somehow overriden or blocked by common sexuality and social conditioning. So I see it as "unlocked special (old) feature" of brain, rather than something unnatural.
So LSD was "fetish cure" for me in the sense of pulling it from subconsciousness.
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Well, I would be up to take it. What it would take to satisfy my fetish to the ultimate level is impossible. When I get to fulfill my sinking desires, I just want more and more. I am happiest when my fetish is not with me. Sometimes I fetish, and other times I don't. But it has been coming and going and coming and going ever since I was a little kid.
When I am in the fetish state, I don't think outside of the fetish, and I'm always daydreaming about it. I like my fetish very, very much when I'm in this state, but only then.
When I'm not, I don't give a shit about my fetish, and have no desire of it. However, then I have other interests that get my attention. I would be way better off if my fetish cured.
Outside of the fetish, I have virtually zero sexual interest.
When I am in the fetish state, I don't think outside of the fetish, and I'm always daydreaming about it. I like my fetish very, very much when I'm in this state, but only then.
When I'm not, I don't give a shit about my fetish, and have no desire of it. However, then I have other interests that get my attention. I would be way better off if my fetish cured.
Outside of the fetish, I have virtually zero sexual interest.
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There are a lot of great responses here! I truly enjoyed seeing a side of members here that I'd not seen before.
As for a "cure"... I agree that this is NOT a disease! But there are some instances where fetishism borders on being a mental disorder. I, like a few others here, have popped on to "fetlife" and then headed for the door as fast as I could. In my mind some of those people are beyond 'effing nuts!
No, mud isn't my only fetish. I've engaged in many other types as well. But my fetish does not define me - I define my fetish!
I do compare it to some other forms of sexual deviance. It's just how we are. We enjoy something that others may see as "odd" or even childish. And yet we receive some form of gratification in participating in the fetish. There is nothing at all wrong with that!
A point was raised earlier about homosexuality. Personally, I do not approve of homosexuality. But that is a personal choice. Most people that know me know that I have very strong feelings about this topic. But I'm never going to approach someone I know that is a homosexual and try and make them change! And I always expect the same courtesy in return. Besides, if you tried to force me to change my heterosexual orientation you will probably end up looking down the barrel of my .45! You don't need my approval to enjoy the way you are...
...And I don't need anyone's approval to enjoy participating in my mud fetish! Whether it be in watching Sarah Michelle, Annabelle, Odette, Nessie, or any of the other lovely ladies that are on this site - or whether it is just me and my mudpit - this is MY fetish. And I don't need someone trying to "cure" me of something of which they have no understanding!
One last point and I'll return to my pit...
Some time ago I met a wonderful lady. I'd hoped that she would share in my love of mud. But she didn't. To her credit, she tried to get into it, but that just wasn't her thing. So now she goes out with me on our ATV's and we explore together. And if I find mud, she lets me play without judgment. You see, it's about me and the mud. And if no one else wants to enjoy it with me, then I'll enjoy it by myself.
And I anxiously await the return of warmer weather!
As for a "cure"... I agree that this is NOT a disease! But there are some instances where fetishism borders on being a mental disorder. I, like a few others here, have popped on to "fetlife" and then headed for the door as fast as I could. In my mind some of those people are beyond 'effing nuts!
No, mud isn't my only fetish. I've engaged in many other types as well. But my fetish does not define me - I define my fetish!
I do compare it to some other forms of sexual deviance. It's just how we are. We enjoy something that others may see as "odd" or even childish. And yet we receive some form of gratification in participating in the fetish. There is nothing at all wrong with that!
A point was raised earlier about homosexuality. Personally, I do not approve of homosexuality. But that is a personal choice. Most people that know me know that I have very strong feelings about this topic. But I'm never going to approach someone I know that is a homosexual and try and make them change! And I always expect the same courtesy in return. Besides, if you tried to force me to change my heterosexual orientation you will probably end up looking down the barrel of my .45! You don't need my approval to enjoy the way you are...
...And I don't need anyone's approval to enjoy participating in my mud fetish! Whether it be in watching Sarah Michelle, Annabelle, Odette, Nessie, or any of the other lovely ladies that are on this site - or whether it is just me and my mudpit - this is MY fetish. And I don't need someone trying to "cure" me of something of which they have no understanding!
One last point and I'll return to my pit...
Some time ago I met a wonderful lady. I'd hoped that she would share in my love of mud. But she didn't. To her credit, she tried to get into it, but that just wasn't her thing. So now she goes out with me on our ATV's and we explore together. And if I find mud, she lets me play without judgment. You see, it's about me and the mud. And if no one else wants to enjoy it with me, then I'll enjoy it by myself.
And I anxiously await the return of warmer weather!
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
If you have zero sexual interest outside of the fetish, it's definitely not healthy state. But if the fetish just enables you to stay detached from common sexual neediness, then it's definitely positive thing.
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Mr Mudster wrote:A point was raised earlier about homosexuality. Personally, I do not approve of homosexuality. But that is a personal choice. Most people that know me know that I have very strong feelings about this topic. But I'm never going to approach someone I know that is a homosexual and try and make them change!
My discovery of other quicksand fetishists like myself, and our consequent open practice of the fetish for ongoing relief from its urges, have motivated me to practice more tolerance of homosexuals. Evidently, human sexual development is so complicated that these "deviations from the norm" cannot be helped. I can hardly condemn "deviancy" in others while possessing one myself.
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QuicksandMania wrote:My discovery of other quicksand fetishists like myself, and our consequent open practice of the fetish for ongoing relief from its urges, have motivated me to practice more tolerance of homosexuals.
I'll go you one better. I never disapproved of homosexuals. Not even in the long-ago, deep dark 1970's. They always looked normal to me. The only thing difference I could see between a homosexual and a heterosexual was who they did "it" with.
And homosexuals had something I didn't. They had a community, even if it was a secret one. They had partners, even if they had to lie and say "roommate". I didn't get a community until the Internet was born.
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Nessie wrote:QuicksandMania wrote:My discovery of other quicksand fetishists like myself, and our consequent open practice of the fetish for ongoing relief from its urges, have motivated me to practice more tolerance of homosexuals.
I'll go you one better. I never disapproved of homosexuals. Not even in the long-ago, deep dark 1970's. They always looked normal to me. The only thing difference I could see between a homosexual and a heterosexual was who they did "it" with.
And homosexuals had something I didn't. They had a community, even if it was a secret one. They had partners, even if they had to lie and say "roommate". I didn't get a community until the Internet was born.
Nessie
I'll go along with both of you. My fetish has greatly expanded my understanding of all kinds of things. It's difficult to wrap your head around others ways of doing things if you won't go there with yourself. I've kind of come to think that it's my lifestyle that causes problems for my fetish and not the other way around.
It's a dirty job but I got to do it for 27 years. Thank you.
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Duncan Edwards wrote:Nessie wrote:QuicksandMania wrote:My discovery of other quicksand fetishists like myself, and our consequent open practice of the fetish for ongoing relief from its urges, have motivated me to practice more tolerance of homosexuals.
I'll go you one better. I never disapproved of homosexuals. Not even in the long-ago, deep dark 1970's. They always looked normal to me. The only thing difference I could see between a homosexual and a heterosexual was who they did "it" with.
And homosexuals had something I didn't. They had a community, even if it was a secret one. They had partners, even if they had to lie and say "roommate". I didn't get a community until the Internet was born.
Nessie
I'll go along with both of you. My fetish has greatly expanded my understanding of all kinds of things. It's difficult to wrap your head around others ways of doing things if you won't go there with yourself. I've kind of come to think that it's my lifestyle that causes problems for my fetish and not the other way around.
You've come a long way (baby).

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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
I've thought about this thread often but it has taken a while for me to come to terms with the duality of the question, so please pardon this necro post. My answer is yes and my answer is no, all depends on when I would get the choice. Ask me now, no, I've come to terms with the realization that there are both good and bad aspects of my being a mud fetishist. Everything I am is so entwined that having the fetish just disappear would take away some important things in my life but give nothing back in return. For instance, I've in amazing physical shape from the weekly ordeal of visiting mudpits yet have dropped to less than a 10 minute workout pumping iron per week. Take away all that exercise and I'd end up loosing muscle mass and be sittin' in a couch in no time. And, worse, be constantly lamenting all the choices I missed in life to do different things and be a totally different person. Never had to worry about those choices, the mud fetish largely determined so many of them. So, in essence, saying no is all about being reconciled with and satisfied with my life and who I am. I wouldn't want to take that away.
Ahhh, but should you have in some way have been able to ask me the same question when I was a teenager in such a manner as for me to be able to understand what the consequences of having a mud fetish would be in life, I'd have instantly said yes! I'd rather have had all those choices. If nothing else, I'd have rather of at least had the opportunity to overtly choose my fetish instead of having it unconsciously chosen for me, I'd have chosen something cheaper, easier, more common, and with more mainstream acceptance that wouldn't make it so difficult to find a female who would participate in it. But I'd opt for no fetish at all above all as the main problem with being a fetishist is that it alters the way you interact with and form long term relationships with females. I'd have rather had a loving relationship with one or more females than have been a self centered fetishist.
Ahhh, but should you have in some way have been able to ask me the same question when I was a teenager in such a manner as for me to be able to understand what the consequences of having a mud fetish would be in life, I'd have instantly said yes! I'd rather have had all those choices. If nothing else, I'd have rather of at least had the opportunity to overtly choose my fetish instead of having it unconsciously chosen for me, I'd have chosen something cheaper, easier, more common, and with more mainstream acceptance that wouldn't make it so difficult to find a female who would participate in it. But I'd opt for no fetish at all above all as the main problem with being a fetishist is that it alters the way you interact with and form long term relationships with females. I'd have rather had a loving relationship with one or more females than have been a self centered fetishist.
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